The well-known, altgläubige Benediktinerkloster in Le Barroux seems to be subjected already longer substantial changes.

(kreuz.net) recent expressed itself the Straßburger Kirchengeschichtler Luc Perrin in the Yahoo group `CTNGreg -- Catholic tradition network: Gregorian/Tridentine' to the liturgical developments in the French Benediktinerabtei Le Barroux.

First Perrin reminds of the long and complicated history of the abbey:

„The founder of Le Barroux, cathedral Gérard Calvet, which died in February 2008, was a Benediktiner of the abbey Madiran/Tournay in southwest France. In the 60's its discontent with the” reforms “grew in its abbey. “


With the agreement of its abbott it pulled therefore as an a settler into the Weiler Bédoin. There it some young men followed.

The group pulled later after Le Barroux and began there with the establishment of a new monastery.

From 1974 to 1988 the community stood in the contact with the priest brother shank sank for Pius Xth archbishop Marcel Lefebvre dedicated the first priests of the community.

With the bishop dedicating of the yearly 1988 the monk community turned however from Mons. Lefebvre off and Rome too.

One year later was already dedicated cathedral Gérard of Paul Augustin cardinal Mayer (97) to the abbott of Sainte Madeleine you to Barroux.

For the Piusbruderschaft that was a betrayal, and cathedral Gérard was considered to it as Abtrünniger. When it konzelebrierte years later even with Pope Johannes Paul II., for the Lefebvristen the clear proof for it was.

In a forced manner to the adjustment
But Perrin stresses that cathedral Gérard never gave its deep solidarity up with the old person rite and the tradition: „However Le Barroux is in France and not in the USA “.

In view of the numerous appointments he strove desperately around a place for a reestablishment. For many years it hoped to be able to establish a daughter monastery in the Elsaß: „However in the year 1997 the new archbishop of Strasbourg rejected categorically. “

Perrin believes that this experience strengthens cathedral Gérard to it led, to approximate the French church.

Its efforts fruchteten: In the year 2002 it received green light for the establishment of a Priorates: „A rather young monk named Louis Marie de Geyer d'Orth was appointed the Prior. “

In the year 2003 Pater Louis Marie became finally successor ill cathedral of the Gérard and a new abbott of Le Barroux.

The man in the background
The new abbott stands according to data of Perrin under strong influence of Pater Basile Valuet, which belongs to the community of Le Barroux. Pater Valuet attained a doctorate in Rome.

It concerned itself in its doctor work with the question whether dogma tables statements of the second Vatikanums contradict the preceding teaching profession.

The Pater studied the problem at the controversies question of the freedom of religion.

„He came to - unexpected - the conclusion that `Dignitatis agree perfect humanae' and the Syllabus of Pius IX. - while they stand for every different one in obvious contrast. “


Ideology of continuity
Outgoing of it Pater Valuet developed the conception of one according to data of Perrin „absolute, radical” continuity “between the word of the second Vatikanums and the preceding documents of the teaching profession. “

„It is easy to understand, where this uncritical view way leads: One forbids each criticism at the second Vatikanum and at the following reforms and pastoralen decisions “- in such a way to Perrin:

„One becomes slowly” Paul VI in such a way. - Integrist “and strives less and less to promote the tradition. “

The present abbott of Le Barroux is many more weighed absolute continuity according to data of Perrin of the theory of one „“than its predecessor.

Therefore it does not have problems to konzelebrieren with other Benediktineräbten.

Monks of Le Barroux are asked - so Perrin - also to ministrieren with Novus Ordo fairs through journey that priests. Some monks of Le Barroux celebrated outside of the monastery in the new rite.

Perrin is not safe itself whether the abbott of Le Barroux knows exactly, where he wants to lead its monastery.

Look for the Liturgie the future?
It reminds however of a meeting, which took place in the year 2001 in the altgläubigen Benediktinerkloster Fontgombault. The elaboration of a united Roman rite was discussed, which should be a mixture from the old person Liturgie and the Novus Ordo, whereby the old person rite should supply the basic structure.

Perrin assumes in this context that Le Barroux is anxious to develop further “and so a Liturgie bring out the old Liturgie of the monastery „, which could serve as basis for „an improved “Missale, which could be promulgiert for the whole church.

But this goal led to the excerpt of a group of monks - under them the first way companion of cathedral Gérard - from Le Barroux.

This group did not turn around the view that it would be thing of the Novus Ordo, toward the classical Liturgie to move - and.

For Perrin the departure of this group is „a highly transparent reference “that in the monastery a transformation is under way.

LandorganistII: Worth Doctor!!

They already wrote it? Oh!? I would have gladly a copy. Where and how do I come to selbiges?

Dr. Christoph Heger: @LandorganistII: No longer necessarily.

Such a book does not have to be written no more.

And for the general Erheiterung are enough their zero-corrode.

MfG
Christian OF Heger

LandorganistII: Dear Doctor!

How would it, if you write times a book did, be over your interesting right opinions? A place at the front places that of ranking would surely already be you, due to the general Erheiterung caused thereby.

Dr. Christoph Heger: @No COMMENTs: Thanks for your efforts!

Dignitatis (1965) and Syllabus (1864) agree not „perfectly “, but only in their Katholizität;

What is to be called? They do not agree thus admittedly in their statements. Otherwise one would also not have to employ the following considerations:

the struggle-higher document is DH, because the Syll. only one list as „appendix “to Quanta cura was.

That may be (or also not). Anyhow two different kinds is incontestable:

1. The science of DH is logically empty, because it misses to define, what a religion is that it awarded on it tremendous privilege requirement raise may.

2. If one refrains from this lack, it remains essentially applicable that it is an innovation, which is not provable in the steady teachings of the church in the past.

„The Tradi “dazzles always, already as the thing appeared, the direction of attack out, those the encyclical (!) gave: Therefore belobigte Pius IX. the interpretation, which gave Dupanloup.

Insignificant.

What do you by the way hold from k.n Unwort of the yearly? „P Vi-Integrist “? Who should be? Andreotti? To the inclined laughter!!

You ask better that, which applied this word. I can say to it nothing.

MfG
Christian OF Heger

Benedikt: @ NO COMMENT

Completely correctly.

NO COMMENT: @Hegerl

Dignitatis (1965) and Syllabus (1864) agree not „perfectly “, but only in their Katholizität; the struggle-higher document is DH, because the Syll. only one list as „appendix “to Quanta cura was. „The Tradi “dazzles always, already as the thing appeared, the direction of attack out, those the encyclical (!) gave: Therefore belobigte Pius IX. the interpretation, which gave Dupanloup.

What do you by the way hold from k.n Unwort of the yearly? „P Vi-Integrist “? Who should be? Andreotti? To the inclined laughter!!